Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
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Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
Hi! I have a painted tolex problem.
Need ideas or products used for removing BLACK paint
off of BROWN tolex on a 1962 Fender Brownface amp.
Any successful products used? Don't want to ruin the tolex below.
What has anyone experienced? Thanks for comments and advice.
Need ideas or products used for removing BLACK paint
off of BROWN tolex on a 1962 Fender Brownface amp.
Any successful products used? Don't want to ruin the tolex below.
What has anyone experienced? Thanks for comments and advice.
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Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
Here are a number of solvents, but I'd try mineral spirits first. A little dab on an old rag or cloth. Just try working on the spot directly and see if it works.
Others are denatured alcohol, naphtha, lacquer thinner, and acetone. I'm pretty sure lacquer thinner and acetone will attack the tolex.
Others are denatured alcohol, naphtha, lacquer thinner, and acetone. I'm pretty sure lacquer thinner and acetone will attack the tolex.
Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
Thanks! Are there any "name brand products" like Easy Off, 409, Kid Krutter graffiti remover, or name brand paint removers that are safe with Brownface brown tolex?statorvane wrote:Here are a number of solvents, but I'd try mineral spirits first. A little dab on an old rag or cloth. Just try working on the spot directly and see if it works. Others are denatured alcohol, naphtha, lacquer thinner, and acetone. I'm pretty sure lacquer thinner and acetone will attack the tolex.
I will definitely try your suggestions ASAP since I have some around. Thanks
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Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
I did a little searching on the 'net and it confirmed my gut reactions:
1) This is not going to be easy.
2) Goof Off is a top candidate for the job. You can get this at any place they sell paint. As with anything, test it out before going whole hog.
3) I saw recommendations for hair spray! Folks claim it works.
4) Mineral spirits is often recommended, but I think: a) you need to do it outside because of the fumes, and b) you won't have enough elbow grease if it is the whole cab that you have to do.
I suspect you are going to have difficulty getting the paint off the textured recesses. You'll end up with some black in the relief areas.
As a last resort, you might try a heat gun. The problem is that it may also remove the tolex from the cab.
If this is as bad as I think you are saying -- someone painted the amp black -- you may want to throw in the towel, strip it and recover the wood. Sometimes restoration of the existing stuff just isn't worth the effort.
1) This is not going to be easy.
2) Goof Off is a top candidate for the job. You can get this at any place they sell paint. As with anything, test it out before going whole hog.
3) I saw recommendations for hair spray! Folks claim it works.
4) Mineral spirits is often recommended, but I think: a) you need to do it outside because of the fumes, and b) you won't have enough elbow grease if it is the whole cab that you have to do.
I suspect you are going to have difficulty getting the paint off the textured recesses. You'll end up with some black in the relief areas.
As a last resort, you might try a heat gun. The problem is that it may also remove the tolex from the cab.
If this is as bad as I think you are saying -- someone painted the amp black -- you may want to throw in the towel, strip it and recover the wood. Sometimes restoration of the existing stuff just isn't worth the effort.
Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
I agree with the above -- if it is totally covered, it is going to be a tough job to get that paint off while saving the tolex. That being said, I bought a 1965 Super Reverb a while back that had a band name stenciled/spraypainted on it in a few places. I used WD40 on a rag and it took it off slowly and safely. It took a while, but it was a good arm workout!
Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
I used Swarfega Graffiti Remover to successfully remove two layers of "gloss" paint from a 1967 Marshall JMP50 head. Top coat was black and underneath someone had done it in a tasteful red white and blue!! Anyway, it took two afternoons, lots of water between applications and tooth brush / nailbrush to remove from the grain. Messy job but well worth it, the Tolex underneath was like new and the gold piping wasn't harmed. Obviously took the chassis out before doing the job.
I live in the UK but the Swarfega brand is made by DEB who are present in the USA, so I'd imagine you'd be able to get the same product, perhaps marketed by a different name?
I live in the UK but the Swarfega brand is made by DEB who are present in the USA, so I'd imagine you'd be able to get the same product, perhaps marketed by a different name?
Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
I guy used automotive brake fluid in a post on another forum. Not near the top of my list.
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Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
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Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
Thanks for the tips. I am starting with:
1) CLR, and
2) Turtle Wax Chrome Polish & Rust Remover for chrome auto wheels.
I'll see how that goes. Paint remover is a big industry.
Will report my results.
1) CLR, and
2) Turtle Wax Chrome Polish & Rust Remover for chrome auto wheels.
I'll see how that goes. Paint remover is a big industry.
Will report my results.
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Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
zip strip always worked the best for me
Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
Does Zip Strip take rust and corrosion right off and make Fender chassis straps, feet or even the chassis look like new???butwhatif wrote:zip strip always worked the best for me
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Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
I only use it on tolex and grille cloth. It's liable to make a mess of anything else
Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
That is great to know. I have a 1962 Fender Reverb tank unit that someone sprayed black paint on brown tolex. Gotta remove that as well. Will give Zip Strip a try on the tolex. I was going to have someone retolex the tank, anyway, so might as well give Zip Strip a shot at the jobbutwhatif wrote:I only use it on tolex and grille cloth. It's liable to make a mess of anything else
. . . . . and save some money, anyway.
Thank you.
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Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
Since paint does not readily adhere to vinyl I would go to the hardware store and buy a roll of Gorilla tape. Lay a strip in the painted surface and then lay another strip in top of it. Then use a seam roller to stick the stuff down hard as you can and then lift. I successfully de-painted a brown Pro that way. Then, for the little tiny spaces that are left, get yourself some bamboo skewers or toothpicks from the food section of the market, some Q-tips and your solvent of choice-brake fluid works pretty well, but as with all paint removing ideas test it first on a sample located where it is not readily visible.
When alles in ordnung as they say, you can dab the stuff on those little pits and use your skewers or toothpicks to pick the remainder out.
When alles in ordnung as they say, you can dab the stuff on those little pits and use your skewers or toothpicks to pick the remainder out.
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Re: Help removing black paint from Tolex on '62 Fender Brownface
Prairie Dawg wrote:Since paint does not readily adhere to vinyl I would go to the hardware store and buy a roll of Gorilla tape. Lay a strip in the painted surface and then lay another strip in top of it. Then use a seam roller to stick the stuff down hard as you can and then lift. I successfully de-painted a brown Pro that way. Then, for the little tiny spaces that are left, get yourself some bamboo skewers or toothpicks from the food section of the market, some Q-tips and your solvent of choice-brake fluid works pretty well, but as with all paint removing ideas test it first on a sample located where it is not readily visible. When alles in ordnung as they say, you can dab the stuff on those little pits and use your skewers or toothpicks to pick the remainder out.
Thanks, Prairie Dawg. Brake fluid???
I will give this a test. No Harm - No Foul . . . .
As I was going to re-tolex the reverb tank unit,
and this may save it from that process.
Question: When you finished your paint removal process,
could you or others tell that your amp once had paint on it?
Thanks.
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