VVR3 - Hall Amplification -where can I buy a kitor PCB

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VVR3 - Hall Amplification -where can I buy a kitor PCB

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Already bought 3 pcs VVR kit from Dana, installed in a 5e3 and to be installed in respectively a 18w clone and a EH185 clone. All cathode biased amps. All good.

However, for a 5f4 clone I need a VVR3 - where can I get a kit or a PCB and sourcing the parts myself.

Hallamplification.com is not working any more - Any clues?


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I've been building my own cathode bias versions on tag strips. Super easy. Are you looking for the fixed-bias kits? I guess you could go with London Power.
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London Power kits are great and are very transparent. The latest kits have moved on from a simple pass regulator, and if I recall, use a current mirror for "low control voltage" adjustment. This allows any sized pot to be used and simplifies the use of multiple pots for individual channel power scaling settings.
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Thanks for the reply's

I prefer the simplicity of the VVR3 - the VVR in my 5e3 never made unwanted noise or heat. Totally reliable.
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IM Dana at UR12 on this board.
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I sent Dana several emails wanting to purchase a VVR kit but I never got
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Per Dana's FB he said the parts to build VVR's was very costly and was not sure if he is going to continue selling VVR's.

I guess a PM to Dana would be the best way to ask.
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I assume that what Dana meant is that the parts were too expensive for a business venture, and I can certainly see that. Especially with the support that you would inevitably end up providing (even if you tell everyone there is no support). But, if you build a VVR yourself, it is certainly wouldn't be very expensive, and it would be a very easy build. You might not get it to be as small as Dana did, but probably small enough.
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If someone can provide a schematic and BOM, I will do a pcb layout and make unstuffed boards available for purchase.
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We shouldn't be passing around Dana's schems unless he gives the go ahead. And, odds are, if he did that, he'd provide it himself :)
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In Dana's defense, I'm sure providing support to all of the problems that come along with uneducated installs, could be overwhelming to say the least.
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Thanks for the inputs.

In reality the VVR3 is equal to the VVR only with additional bias tracker circuit. for fixed bias usage. I found a schemo on the interweb, which I believe is usable. guess all components can be fitted to a terminal strip.

I've pm'ed Dana, but got no reply. I have a DIY 5f4 Tweed Super craving a VVR3. So I'm gonna try using the schemo.

I understand people's concern for Dana, but it's the Mr. D story all over (plus on a minor scale Shad and Brown Note) . You cant get in contact with the man and you have to find alternatives. Hence, Fuchs etc.

BTW if someone need a complete VVR (without bias tracker) and alternative could be: http://www.tube-town.net/ttstore/Kits/P ... :5651.html
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I've been asking around about this as well... I tried to contact Dana for a purchase without a response.

Does anyone have any clear pics of the board?
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That power sliding circuit works but on the bias side, the mosfet actually doesn't buffer anything and works as effectively as just using the pot. I decided not to use it and that it could be done better.

Don't know if you're a member at Wattkins but we've been having similar discussions over there.
http://www.wattkins.com/node/24640

Big hint - Exactly the same as the B+ side but with a P channel mosfet, protection zener around the other way and no current measuring resistor (you don't need current limiting on the bias supply scaling) works a treat. This is what I suspected Dana's VVR was for years, although a recent re-look at the PCB photos and the component layout doesn't make as much sense for that, but looks more like it could be that power sliding circuit. I don't have a board so don't really know.
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