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Unusual problem with new build

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Im having an issue with my new Gibson GA-100 build. At low volumes the amp sounds perfect. There are no unusual noises hisses pops or squeals. What I do have is a strange charging and discharging effect happening. When you hit a note that would draw some current the amp cuts out instantly then comes back. I checked voltage drop during the phenomenon and there is none to speak of. Any thoughts?
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Re: Unusual problem with new build

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Measure all the resistances in the power supply dropping string, and check that the power supply caps are properly connected to ground.
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Re: Unusual problem with new build

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Grounds good as are filter caps. I'll check the dropping string again, but I'm pretty sure it is correct.
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Another thing to check is that every grid has a dc path to ground.
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Re: Unusual problem with new build

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Grid blocking?
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Re: Unusual problem with new build

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Firestorm wrote:Grid blocking?
On the schematic it shows the cathodes and one of the grids on the pentode anode drivers connected together. I ran a wire from cathode to grid to cathode to grid to the 470 ohm cathode resistor. Upon looking at the photos of the original amp I cloned the tied the cathode to the grid on each tube and then ran a separate wire to the resistor.

Could this be the problem?

Here is a link to my build thread it has schematics and such
http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... bson+ga100
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Re: Unusual problem with new build

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Measure the voltage of each grid to ground, while the problem is occurring. See if taking this measurement fixes the problem a bit.
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Re: Unusual problem with new build

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Looks like the grid bias in the anode drivers is constantly changing. The schematic shows a value of 1.6vdc I'm getting anywhere between 2.5vdc and -22vdc.
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Re: Unusual problem with new build

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Did you build it with the compressor circuit? If so, does it do it with the compressor switched off?
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Re: Unusual problem with new build

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Yes and yes
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jon wrote:Looks like the grid bias in the anode drivers is constantly changing. The schematic shows a value of 1.6vdc I'm getting anywhere between 2.5vdc and -22vdc.
That might be it. Is it 2.5v at idle, and -22 when you hit it with signal?

What's connected to those grids?

Can you post the schematic? Which valve(s) is this?
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Check the link a few posts up.
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Bump
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Re: Unusual problem with new build

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You'd mentioned a large bias shift, where the spec was supposed to be 1.6. Was that on v4/v5?

What happens if you simply remove v4/v5? Does the problem change?

Is there also a large bias shift on the PI - V2/v3? If so, try clipping in another 22m resistor in parallel with the one that's there in the grid leak area of V2/V3. See if that reduces the problem.
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