Dumble video/sound clip reference, real Dumbles only please

[Structo]

This is still my favorite tone sampler.

[img:380:344]http://lh3.ggpht.com/_MHnI-B0pJ8k/TEIIP ... 20Demo.JPG[/img]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap6odoC4itw

[boldaslove6789]

Ben Harper's Dumble's ( You can see Lindly's amp in the background)

Abbey Road Sessions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QitV6EFaYd4

Amp was discussed in this thread:

http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... vid+lindly

[Max]

David Lindley, anyone?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAbbgSKUZB4

Guitar Player Magazine - September 1985:

"...after the last Steel-String Singer mod I did to David Lindley's amps,..."

http://personalpages.manchester.ac.uk/s ... e/Articles

Cheers,

Max

[Max]

Tony,

I believe those pics were taken by Doug R the amp builder who makes Marshall style stuff. The amp in the pics belongs to Ben Harper I believe.

Scott
Hope your well!
Yes the pics were taken by Doug Roccaforte and posted over at TGP.

A while back I posted them here and Brandon commented on who's amp it was

http://ampgarage.com/forum/viewtopic.ph ... cannonball

and mentioned he thought it was used on the KOR CD..and thought it was used on Cannonball!!
If any of this is untrue be glad to change it..Thanks

Tony

Tony, Scott,

AFAIK this is #093 of Carlos Rios.

I think, that this amp is discussed here:

http://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... p?t=473990

It really looks like the "transition generation" ODS #093 built for Carlos Rios with matching open back cabinet.

Just a guess: This "transition generation" amp still has the "Accent" switch. Would it be possible, that the trim pot near the PI section on the board adjusts the amount of "accent" the switch provides and by this works more or less like some kind of internal "pre-set" presence control?

Here are pictures of Ben Harper’s "4th generation" #109 and Lindley’s "1st generation" amps:

http://www.fretboardjournal.com/photos/ ... id-lindley

On the front of the Lindley amps you find marks for the different settings for guitar and slide. Guitar settings are marked with a ring.

Here’s one more of these "1st generation" ODS (pictures from Bill Morgan’s "Treasures Of Equipment" site http://homepage.mac.com/bill_jpn_morgan ... lbum3.html ):

http://homepage.mac.com/bill_jpn_morgan ... 4%20II.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/bill_jpn_morgan ... s/od50.jpg

AFAIR this "1st generation" ODS was used e. g. for the electric guitar tracks of this record:

http://www.audioty.com/sounds/marte.html

http://www.amazon.com/Angel-wings-Harry ... B003FPKR82

and this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d4elb_1MFE

Cheers,

Max

[Structo]

I love this description from the man himself:

It's a different kind of signal handling. In the Overdrive, I approach gain levels that are extremely intense; within the linear region, I have a signal gain capability of one million. So if you stuck 10 microvolts in, you'd get 10 volts back. And I do it with stability, and it's still very musical. The best way to approach an Overdrive is real slow. Walk up to it, look at the knobs, have it turned down real low, and then get a feeling for it. Learn what to do with your fingers to make it respond well. If you walk right up to it, it has a tendency to absolutely frighten some people. The secret control on the Overdrive's panel section is the ratio control, which controls how much overdrive is fed back into the circuit. If you turn that up, it's Rock City!

[talbany]

Max
Another cool post thanks.. Looking at the ring settings on the famous ROE amp (50w) and accounting for tone.. Those settings (w/switches) point to a strong indication that the stack values he used were 1M vol 1M treble and definitely a 1M bass (not sure of the middle but thinking 250K)This is pretty similar to how I run mine with singles and looks to be unmodded first generation... Also yep your right the trim pot is to control the amount of LNFB (Presence control)

Have a Great Day

Tony

[ChrisM]

I love this description from the man himself:

It's a different kind of signal handling. In the Overdrive, I approach gain levels that are extremely intense; within the linear region, I have a signal gain capability of one million. So if you stuck 10 microvolts in, you'd get 10 volts back. And I do it with stability, and it's still very musical. The best way to approach an Overdrive is real slow. Walk up to it, look at the knobs, have it turned down real low, and then get a feeling for it. Learn what to do with your fingers to make it respond well. If you walk right up to it, it has a tendency to absolutely frighten some people. The secret control on the Overdrive's panel section is the ratio control, which controls how much overdrive is fed back into the circuit. If you turn that up, it's Rock City!

What I always took away from that.

Was Dumble has a ton of potential gain on tap. However he is always attenuating it. Be that with the tonestack, volume, pregain, level, ratio, master. He is always killing signal so the tube's aren’t hit too hard. Hitting them too hard gets you into that nasty hard clipping metal territory.

Mesa and Dumble are very similar, for their timing and topology. Dumble just did some more refining and didn't go full bore like ol Randall did.

[boldaslove6789]

I finally got some pics of KirK hammets Dumble!!! It does NOT look like Srv's Dumble to my eyes.

[Mac Daddy]

Demo by Mr Scott Lerner Non HRM EL34 Skyliner 100watter #183


http://www.scottlernermusic.com/dumble/ ... tLast2.mp3

[Structo]

I finally got some pics of KirK hammets Dumble!!! It does NOT look like Srv's Dumble to my eyes.

Soooo which one is it?
The one with the duct tape all over it.

For some reason I never picture metal guys with that kind of rack gear.

[Structo]

Demo by Mr Scott Lerner Non HRM EL34 Skyliner 100watter #183


http://www.scottlernermusic.com/dumble/ ... tCSAgw.mp3

http://www.scottlernermusic.com/dumble/ ... tLast2.mp3

You guys ever figure out what made that amp stand out from the rest?

Have you ever tried 5881's or 6L6's in it?
I think Tag did but didn't like it.
Man, when I picture a EL34 amp, that isn't what I think of.

Really sweet.

I think what I liked about that amp was how it handled the low end without falling apart.

A very special amp.

Got any clips without backing?

[Mac Daddy]

I believe Tag only tried Nos EL34 Siemans and went back to the standard non Nos which are still in the amp , Only the pre amp tubes are nos
I believe GE's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yj0QfWezCTo

[Max]

At around 4:00 RF talks about his 1982 "4th generation" Dumble ODS and you can see the settings he used to get the tones you hear:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBw_M2cQ ... re=related

Cheers,

Max

[Max]

Soooo which one is it?
The one with the duct tape all over it.

Yes. Listen to "St. Anger". Here's some more info and some higher res. pics:

http://www.freewebs.com/montyjay/kirkamps.html#st.anger

http://www.amazon.com/St-Anger-Metallica/dp/B00008OWZG

Take care,

Max

[Max]

You guys ever figure out what made that amp stand out from the rest?

Your individual personal taste in perfect harmony with the individual tone, character, response,... of this Dumble ODS?

All the best,

Max